Hammer and Pickle
7:00 Sun Nov 26
Re: Divin Mubama
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Really?
It’s not as if you’d never mentioned it before.
What is it about his game you don’t like?
Have you been watching him any more than any of us?
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Nutsin
6:36 Sun Nov 26
Re: Divin Mubama
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Not for me, I don’t rate him.
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Willtell
6:28 Sun Nov 26
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Posters can make up their own minds goose.
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goose
6:16 Sun Nov 26
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At last.
So your judgement on him not being ready as some said was based upon half a non-competitive game.
Which is of course completely retarded.
If you don’t think that isn’t a judgment then you’re more stupid than I assumed.
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Willtell
6:13 Sun Nov 26
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Then after more badgering from you and Snide of Ham I posted this which is what you quoted from but left most of it out…
This is what makes you a complete lying fraud…
“ Willtell 1:51 Wed Nov 15
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goose
Where did I judge Mubama goose? I didn't did I?
I merely pointed out to daveyg that in spite of what he said about him showing tremendous promise he failed badly in the pre-season friendly against Leverkusen.
What I watched was embarrassing for the lad and was very disappointing to me that had high hopes we had found a decent young striker. That doesn't mean he won't make it as Leverkusen are top of the Bundesliga.
We lost the game 4-0 and Mubama got taken off at half time. Doesn't mean that he isn't going to make it. Just means he's not quite as ready as most fans think.”
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goose
6:09 Sun Nov 26
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Again not what I asked so I’ll try again
So when you posted: “ he's not quite as ready as most fans think.”
What were you basing that judgement on?
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Willtell
6:07 Sun Nov 26
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In response to your further badgering I said this -
“ Willtell 7:23 Sun Nov 5
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What are you talking about? When did I "brand him useless?" I didn't did I? What are you desperately trying to prove goose?
I'm pretty sure now that it wasn't in the Europa but against Leverkusen in the pre-season 4-0 friendly defeat. Mubama started and had a very bad time of it that I remember.
Mubama was taken off at half time and replaced by Antonio. He's had little to nothing since iirc?
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goose
6:06 Sun Nov 26
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Not what I asked though was it?
That just proves you couldn’t even remember what game you were watching.
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Willtell
6:04 Sun Nov 26
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In response to your badgering I then posted this -
“ Willtell 4:06 Sun Nov 5
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goose
The one goal Mubama scored was from a sun appearance and I recall it was a tap in but I was delighted for him.
I looked forward to seeing him start in a game and I watched for his performance. He didn’t score by the way. But even if he did that doesn’t mean his overall game wasn’t disappointing because I’m sure it was but only going from memory.
Moyes has not played him since and I can’t help but feel Moyes has lost faith in him. Maybe there’s more to it and the contract demands suggest that too. Of course I’m open to the idea that Moyes is a know nothing cunt but it is possible Mubama has lost his way.
If he showed as much promise in training since that game surely Moyes would have played him rather than Ings?”
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Willtell
6:02 Sun Nov 26
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Here’s my original post-
“ Willtell 1:51 Sun Nov 5
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The problem is that when we did give Mubama a start he was pretty useless against one of the Europa teams. He is most effective coming on for 10 - 15 minutes to gain some confidence though.”
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goose
5:49 Sun Nov 26
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So when you posted: “ he's not quite as ready as most fans think.”
What were you basing that judgement on?
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Willtell
5:45 Sun Nov 26
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The way you interpret whatever I say you’ll be quoting me as saying Paqueta is a pile of shit next…
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goose
4:09 Sun Nov 26
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So are you gonna tell everyone that Paqueta isn’t ready either?
Your direct quotes aren’t straw man arguments.
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Willtell
4:07 Sun Nov 26
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goose
Stop making straw man arguments for once in your life. I’ve always been complimentary about Mubama if you quote the whole posts.
I saw his ineffectiveness in the 4-0 defeat to Leverkusen where he was terrible. I saw Paqueta yesterday and he was terrible too.
That doesn’t mean they are terrible players and you know it so stop lying you wanker!
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claret on my shirt
3:56 Sun Nov 26
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Watched his post game interview after the game and he seems to be a very down to earth good lad who just wants to play games. If he can't get them for us then i hope he goes somewhere and gets the game time he wants. But hopefully after yesterday Moyes feels he should now move infront of Ings who just gives us nothing
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goose
2:31 Sun Nov 26
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The kind of bollocks that involves watching half a meaningless friendly and declaring “ he's not quite as ready as most fans think.”
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Willtell
2:26 Sun Nov 26
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It’s not difficult unless you believe what liars say Miike…
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Takashi Miike
2:07 Sun Nov 26
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it's hard keeping up with your bollocks. so he's not 'pretty useless' any more?
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Willtell
2:04 Sun Nov 26
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Mubama is only 19 remember but most fans would rather see a kid of our own trying hard than a past it pro struggling along at a club with big ambitions.
It’s further proof how out of touch Moyes is.
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Manuel
1:23 Sun Nov 26
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Claypole - Yea good observation that, that was one thing with Carroll he rarely moved towards the near post. Sadly, I'm not sure this kid is going to make it in the PL, but would love to be proved wrong.
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claypole
12:48 Sun Nov 26
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I don't remember the last time i saw a near post run from a west ham centre forward. It shows Mubama has natural instincts but i expect Ings does as well, we just haven't seen them.
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